But on the platform many, many times, I see the spirit that leaves the person. They’re in all kind of shapes. I’m fixing up a book on demonology, of what I know about it myself, in my personal dealings with demons; they’re beings. They’re just not just some thought, like Christian science says. It’s actually a being, and you see it when it leaves the person, like a black shadow. I—I seen them, they look, some of them look like bats about that long, got long hairs hanging down. I seen them like that, and I seen them look like tortoises, and like great big spiders that weigh fifty pounds, or something, great big shadow like, and it leaves the people. Usually, that’s epilepsy.

Demonology, 1953-11-20, Evansville, IN, §7