Now, listen. I’d rather my boy there know Jesus Christ and the forgiveness of sins, if he was so dumb he didn’t know his ABC’s. That’s right. I—I would rather he would do it. That’s right. Now, I’m not trying to say your children should be dumb and ignorant, or so forth. That’s not. But brother, education has been one of the biggest hindrance that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has ever had. In the seminaries it’s reading, writing, and arithmetic. And some of them know no more about God than a Hottentot knows about Egyptian night. That…You know that’s true. And it’s—it’s all right to be educated. I don’t want you to be illiterate. But the thing of it is, you put so much stress on that, and not enough on Jesus. You see? That—that’s it. Here’s the One you want to speak of. And then when you get real smart, you say, “Oh, my, Doctor So-and-so knows more about it.” Maybe he does. Caiaphas ought to have knowed Jesus too, oughtn’t he, and so ought the priests in them days. But they didn’t know Him. And so is it today.

Testimony, 1951-05-09, Los Angeles, CA, §31